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12 May 2009 @ 10:09 pm
I have no Trek icon. Sad.

So we finally got to go. And we saw it on the IMAX screen (which is not the same thing as seeing it IN Imax, because I can tell you from Dark Knight THAT is frakking amazing), but still impressive as hell.

OMG I totally choked up at the end when they dedicated the movie to both the Roddenberrys. Thank you, JJ.

I have to say that although I had qualms about HOW they were going to reboot it, I think the way they did it was ultimately the best possible solution. Canon remains canon - this is a parallel universe. That feels more respectful to me than pretending none of it ever happened (which, y'know, sometimes you need - I'm GLAD Batman Begins ignored the other Batman movies, but not for this).

Spock/Uhura? BEST THING EVER. And that would be why she wouldn't give you the time of day, Jim - she already had a certain hybrid wrapped around her finger.

ZQ? knocking it out of the park. Way to go, Sylar. I might be a bit in love. *sigh*

Chris Pine was a better Kirk than I expected. I think he had real charisma, though I think I might rather have Spock be the Captain and Kirk his XO, rather than the other way around, but obviously that wasn't going to happen.

And of course, there is no bad in Leonard Nimoy as Spock. Or giving the Final Frontier speech. I'm so glad he did it, and not one of the new cast. They'll get their turn.

With the exception of the really disastrously stupid Snow planet, it moved. I didn't even realize they hadn't introduced Scotty until Pegg appeared,

Everyone got their moment of badassery. And Pike was great and ended up in the Christopher Pike Chair.

There were so many little things I loved:

- "Admiral Archer's pet beagle" lost in space. *dies* Poor Porthos! bwahahahahaha. I think that was my favorite of all the canon nods.
- "Live long and prosper" being self-serving. hee.
- Spock taking about two seconds to figure out Kirk had met his future!alternate!self. And then beating the shit out of Kirk in a rage. he's badass.
- random happy Orion starfleet academy roomie (at first I thought she was Keri Russell but she was Rachel Nichols. I knew she was in the Bad Robot stable some place. And of course Grunberg was there too. For a moment I thought I heard MIchael Emerson, but I guess not - no Lost people, it looks like. I liked John Cho, but I wonder what DDK would've been like.)
- did I mention Spock/Uhura was AWESOME? Need MOAR!

Parts I didn't like as much:

Mark Lenard is and will always be Sarek to me. I'm sorry, Ben. YOu tried, and you were better than many of the so-called Vulcans on Trek series in recent years (Gary Graham, WORST VULCAN EVER) but, no. And I still hate Winona Ryder (I do not say that lightly, people, but I KNOW things), which distracted me from what should have been a sad moment. So I could've done without both Spock's parents, but that Science Academy scene was worth the price of admission. (Except for Akiva Goldsman there. WTF?)

But still. THEY BLEW UP VULCAN. BASTARDS! I hadn't been spoiled for that, and that shocked me. VULCAN. I'm still in shock from that.

I... don't even know what to do with the snow planet. If they were watching Vulcan go boom in real time, it has to be in the same solar system. And therefore, you'd think, in SOME DANGER from the black hole next door... But okay, Spock is, as we've established, a badass and obviously got the hell out of there before it got torn apart. But still the whole snow planet sequence, except for Young Kirk and Spock was a waste of space.

And why wouldn't Nero keep Spock WITH him? Maybe it's just me - since I have a very similar setup in Tartarus when Ishtar makes Asheron watch - she wants to SEE him watching his people all die. You'd think Nero would be gloating to Spock's face about it.

I think they need to ease off the Bones-isms a bit for McCoy. Karl Urban was all right, and his delivery is perfect, but there were too many nods in the script.

Hand-held works on BSG and the small screen because we can see the whole screen. I WANT IT TO DIE in movies. RIGHT NOW. It's so hard to see what the hell's going on.

Red matter? JJ your Alias bullshit is showing. I will accept mystical time traveling islands, but that? eh. not so much. I mean, c'mon, they're already trying to create mini black holes in the present -- I don't think mystical crap was the right solution there. (not to mention in TNG canon the Romulans use some kind of singularity drives anyway, IIRC. They could've just used that.)

But despite some of my rather nitpicky complaints, I enjoyed it. :)

To Hell with this. I'm gonna live!: {st} Captain Kirk in commandjustmyb0nes on May 13th, 2009 07:56 am (UTC)
you're right about theblack hole thingy. I didnt think about it before (thank you!!) but yeah it's kinda weird LOL

Spock/ Uhura was just THE brilliant idea of the movie.
Badass Spock? Made of win. Quinto surprised me soo much (in the good way)

Did I mention I can kill to have an imax near me!!!
lizardbeth: Spock-Uhuralizardbeth_j on May 13th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
no IMAX? that's rotten.

I can't believe how awesome Spock/Uhura is. I heard about it and was all WTF? but seeing it, I love it so much!
To Hell with this. I'm gonna live!: {st} The crew is back!justmyb0nes on May 14th, 2009 07:36 am (UTC)
We got only a few here :( (when I say here I mean in France)

Oh yeah. Im wondering how it will be after (because I really hope there will be others)
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lizardbethlizardbeth_j on May 13th, 2009 06:06 pm (UTC)
OMG YES. perfect. And then the cap to it all was the end bit when they're discussing offering to evac Nero and we get that edge of cold fury again. eeeee. *loves*
Merry Fivanolix on May 13th, 2009 02:02 pm (UTC)
Yay, I'm glad you liked it. I saw it again with some of my family on IMAX, although I really wasn't bothered by the hand-held quality.

I love how Spock was badass in such a controlled manner, except for those two moments where people dare insult his mother to his face. No wonder Uhura's a fan...it would have been very awesome if the two of them were captain/first officer at the end. I know it'd be really messing up canon but they were very cool.
lizardbethlizardbeth_j on May 13th, 2009 06:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, I'm afraid Original Recipe Spock kind of spoiled me for the quiet, controlled, but deep feeling character. Which tends to be the ones I latch onto (even if they're not especially deep I give it to them in fic). Which is why I generally love Vulcans. And this Spock fit perfectly into my OTC zone.

I love how he didn't try to push her away because people were watching in the transporter room. They had a very comfortable relationship and I really, really want to write how it got started. please pull the bunnies away from me, I have too much to do already!!!! :)
selmak on May 13th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
I have to admit that the beagle reference completely blew past me... perhaps because I refuse to acknowledge Enterprise: aka the Show that could have been made of win, but failed.
lizardbethlizardbeth_j on May 13th, 2009 05:54 pm (UTC)
Porthos was my favorite character on Enterprise. I'll leave it at that. :)
Kelly...It's like Jello with a K and a Ycenterspire on May 13th, 2009 08:28 pm (UTC)
Spock/Uhura is maybe the best thing ever...and I don't say that lightly. I also love love love ZQSPOCK. He is amazing and I want him on my side in a fight (ZQ or Spock...either would be fine).

I DIDN'T SEE AGENT SEAN!!! :( I am distraught. I was sure he had to be there somewhere, but I never saw him. Where was he so I can find him on my next viewing??
lizardbeth: Spock-Uhura kisslizardbeth_j on May 13th, 2009 08:48 pm (UTC)
Oh,you don't see the Grunmeister. He's the voice of Kirk's stepdad. :)
There may be a scene with him that got deleted, or maybe that's all there is, dunno.

I am SO down with S/U awesomeness, together and separately. They could do a "Felicity" sort of style Starfleet Academy with the two of them and their budding relationship and I would TOTALLY WATCH it.
Kelly...It's like Jello with a K and a Ycenterspire on May 13th, 2009 09:49 pm (UTC)
Whew! I'm so bad with voices on the first viewing of a movie (I didn't realize Liam Neeson was Aslan until the credits of TLTWATW). Now I'm even more excited to go back and see it.
emmiere: whee!emmiere on May 14th, 2009 12:29 am (UTC)
Your review make me smile. :D

I love Spock/Uhura much, much more than any movie pairing I can remember recently. An actual grown-up relationship that wasn't about OMG DRAMA!....wow. And they at least made her awesomely competent first.

I'm a newbie to the whole Trek universe aside from some random episodes and a forceful movie intervention by, um, devoted fans, so destroying Vulcan just made me go "Hey. Alderaan." instead of making my jaw drop. But I may have to check out the original flavor now, it might make me like this one even more.

*handwaves all mystical sciencey bs away*
lizardbeth: Spock-Uhuralizardbeth_j on May 14th, 2009 02:49 am (UTC)
An actual grown-up relationship that wasn't about OMG DRAMA!....wow. And they at least made her awesomely competent first.

And, though perhaps not immediately obvious to a newbie (omg, how is that even possible? *g*), the fact that Uhura could become that close to Spock just says volumes about her persistence, her patience, her unwillingness to be pushed away, her intelligence, etc. Or IOW, the mere EXISTENCE of that relationship says so much about her without words.

I "know" Vulcan a lot better than I ever knew Alderasn. Harsh.
emmiereemmiere on May 14th, 2009 03:05 am (UTC)
I "know" Vulcan a lot better than I ever knew Alderasn. Harsh.

Yeah, sorry about that. I know nothing of Vulcan, but it is hard to get to know a little foam special effect explosion, so I'll go with you there. :P

I AM remedying by newbie status I think. But, now I'll probably be one of those fans who's all 'Reboot ftw!!' no matter how much I learn to appreciate the original.

Nice new icon. :)