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05 March 2007 @ 12:35 pm
BSG: "Maelstrom" Part 2  
On the thing which was spoiled back in December, but for those who still need protection:



After reading a whole bunch of other recaps/comments, I'm stunned by how many people really seem to believe Kara is not coming back. I thought it was set up rather anvilliciously, myself, that this is Part One of the Kara Thrace Cliffhanger of Destiny.

Every single previously mentioned "the Destiny".
The Oracle in the teaser mentioned it.
Her frakkin' mother mentioned it in the flashback-sequences.
The figurine of the Dawn.
The list goes on and on.

Her destiny is not to get exploded.

I know Ron and Co have a special geeky glee in "confounding the expectations of the t.v. medium" and shit like that, so there's an element of "oh lookie what we did, we're so cool." But I don't think that's all there is to it. "Flesh and Bone" way back in S.1 started us on this path, and now we've finally taken a major step there. Finally. I'm not all that fond of predestination in my sci-fi (and I'm still hoping for a more real-world, non-Magickal explanation), but I guess if I had the choice I'd rather all of it GO someplace than just keep getting talked about.

I don't know what Part Two of the Kara Thrace Cliffhanger of Destiny is going to be. I hope it's cool. It might be lame. After fandom goes through and writes up four thousand different ways Kara Can Come Back, it'll probably seem lame, no matter what it is. But there are plenty of open doors -- the "raider", the ejection seat lever so carefully brought into focus, the aborted S&R mission... Or ignoring those obvious ones to do something with the "between life and death" theme they've set up. Or maybe she won't know either. She'll just be back and the RTF will think she's a Cylon, even though she's not.

Whatever. However it plays out, she'll be back. Her story is in abeyance for a little while, but it's not over.

Oh, one last thought to ponder -- One thing Skiffy has shown time and time again is that they're not afraid to cut their losses. With a show enough 'on the bubble' as Galactica was, they'd need some proof that a S.4 wouldn't be a waste of their money in order to renew. Either the season finale is THAT frakkin whoa, and/or Kara comes back in S4 (preferably both) -- the channel needs something to promote when the show comes back, and more exciting labor disputes wouldn't cut it.

So, that's my take on it. And pretty much the only thing that'll change my mind is finding out that Katee has another job. Until then, for me it's 'Hasta la vista, baby', not goodbye.

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The Proverbial Bull in a China Shop...: Kara and Sam laughsabaceanbabe on March 5th, 2007 10:28 pm (UTC)
Amen.

Hallelujah.

So say we all.

Yes.
lizardbeth: Anders - Lee - Kara who?lizardbeth_j on March 5th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
turns out I was about two hours ahead of the spoiler emerging. heh.
weissmanweissman on March 5th, 2007 10:30 pm (UTC)
I doubt Katie has another job, as they made her sign a non-disclosure agreement about what happens to Kara. If Kara character was just going to disapear they wouldn't have needed the non-disclosure since after last night it wouldn't matter.

I was kind of psyched about some of the Sharon and Helo bits we got. The fact that Hera is having nightmares, that Sharon was in on analyzing the gun camara video and Helo still has CIC duty.

Bob
lizardbeth: Helolizardbeth_j on March 5th, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
well, technically, no one's asked Katee today whether Starbuck's alive, so we don't know how far the agreement extends. it could only go to the airdate of Maelstrom. But since I agree that she's not dead, it's quibbling.

And yeah. Though did you catch the part about Hera going to see a psychiatrist? It's no wonder with all the "mommies" she's had that she'd be confused, and it was a nice acknowledgment of that, I thought.
weissmanweissman on March 6th, 2007 01:28 am (UTC)
I see Hera's problems in two ways. First it is because of the horror she had to live through on CapII (thanks Roslin) and it could be an indication of some of her future abilities manifesting themselves

Bob
carpenyxcarpenyx on March 5th, 2007 11:36 pm (UTC)
As much as I'm all ... don't even know the word... about last night's episode and really not liking Kara being dead. I don't necessarily think it's final, so I agree with everything you are saying. I'm just ... bleh, lol.
lizardbeth: Helolizardbeth_j on March 6th, 2007 04:44 am (UTC)
"bleh". hee. yeah. Just keep telling yourself, "There's no body, there's no body..." And in sci-fi, even that's not final.
entertaining in a disturbing way: Kara Anders gonna hurtlyssie on March 6th, 2007 12:21 am (UTC)
One day, when I'm not hysterically amused at the newest spoilers (OH COME ON, I've been reading comics for years, Ron, TRY HARDER TO WANK), I will try to explain why I hated the episode, which really felt like yet more filler.

I think I figured out how I missed the dog tag. Naked Kara.
lizardbeth: Anders - shirtlizardbeth_j on March 6th, 2007 12:54 am (UTC)
I was going to take this down after I read the spoilers since it seems sorta silly.

I like the spoilers generally. We get the setup but not the why or the how. And the story can go in several directions when they come back.

Well, the ep more or less ends only a little past where it began, so in that sense I agree it was filler. But beyond that, yeah, I'd like to hear your thoughts. Because I think it does move things forward overall, especially for Kara. And I thought the performances were excellent. heck, Jamie Bamber made me actually LIKE Lee again, at least for this ep, and that is frakkin hard to do. I certainly have quibbles, but overall, I thought it was a good ep that accomplished what they set out to do (unlike so many where they wasted the potential so horribly or killed the emotional impact of the main story with some stupid B-plot nobody cares about).

I was watching his chest, so, yeah, I noticed.